Tuesday, March 10, 2009

Some Good News For Jonathan And Roach... Wednesday Open Thread

LT is staying with San Diego

The Bills Sign Terrell Owens

Oh as for my Vikings...They signed Sage Rosenfumbles...

Well At least you guys got good news.

Also... Frick and Frack...

To those who want to raise taxes...can you provide a moral explanation why should anyone be forced to pay taxes? Behind taxes is the force of a gun. Why do you so easily resort to force as your means of dealing with your fellow man? How do you morally justify the use (or threat -- taxes aren't voluntary) of force against other humans?

Serious question.

Many of the commenters here seem to think that the answer to today's issues is to loot more money via taxes or debt. Do you know where money comes from?

"So you think that money is the root of all evil? . . . Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?...

"...But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made—before it can be looted or mooched—made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced."



It's not just the rich that our troops are protecting over there. It's all of us, so why would we tax the people that have added jobs. Why would you take away from the people who put in the time and effort to get ahead? It's not a land of opportunity if you hit a certain point and then your taxed at 40%. It's actually going to backfire and keep people from obtaining the American Dream.

8 comments:

et said...

Open thread comment: latest NH OT Annual Awards are posted on the Forum. I'm standing in as proxy for Kim, who is otherwise occupied.

http://forum.newshounds.us/viewtopic.php?t=26869

Also on UKLD's excellent OT Wiki.

theroachman said...

Sorry guys...you are missing the point. Of course there must be rules in society. I never said there should not be rules. You are doing a fine job of knocking down a straw man.

The rules (laws) should be based upon one principle -- never initiate (or threaten) force against another human being.

That's why we have laws against murder, rape, robbery and so on. Do you agree or disagree with that principle?

If you disagree, what is your *principle*? What laws are proper? What laws are improper? How do you make that decision? Is there any limit on what the mob or democracy can do to the individual -- or is it wide open?

Thoughts?
StopTheLooting | 03.11.09 - 1:04 pm | #

He thanks us for knocking down his strawman argument...

bizzar!

Count Istvan said...

I think like most Republicans he can put 2+2 together but 2+2+2 gives him fits.

Count Istvan said...

Great job with Awards ET! :)

Anonymous said...

After reading the rest of Loot's posts and after posting a long reply. I get the feeling this guy Loot is the lazest worker imaginable.

Boss: Hey Loot could there is a spill in isle 1.

Loot: I don't need to be forced to do anything. Do know how to use a broom? Serious Question!

Boss: Your fired

Loot: You cant fire me I'll call the cops and tell them that your forcing me to work and you will be the one who has to pay for them to show up. Your not forcing me to pay for your problems.

Boss: What ever. Go home and tell your mom I will be late for dinner. And turn the lights on in the basement your skin is getting pastey from the lack of Vitiman D.

theroachman said...

opps above was me

Jonathan said...

Happy that LT is staying in SD, but Owens going to the Bills? How is that good news for theroachman? T.O.'s just a pain in the ass.

Count Istvan said...

Because it was thought he was going to Oakland which Roachman is a fan of.

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