Saturday, February 28, 2009

538 Trolls

With All Do Respect to Nate Silver whom I think runs a great blog I am using his 538 to steal some troll quotes. Axtuallt this particular thread was not written by Nate. It's interesting. While 538's class of troll is more eloquent... it's just as wrong.

John said... People become Republicans once they graduate from college and actually have to pay taxes. They recognize the sheer incompetence of government and resent being forced to support a corrupt machine with their hard earned money. Republicans fundamentally believe in the freedom of the individual and the inherent strictures of the collectivist mentality.

Republican thinking--free markets and personal freedom--made America and western Europe prosperous; socialism and communism made China and Russia, two potential super-powers, languish for decades. The better question is what makes someone a Democrat? Or maybe it should be "Why does someone stay a Democrat after he comes to grips with reality?" Most teenagers and young adults gravitate towards the Democratic Party with its promise of "free entitlements" for everyone, but when people learn the true meaning of "free entitlements" they become Republicans

Matthew H said...

I would have thought the differences would be a little more obvious.

Democrats trust Big Government to protect us from Big Corporations.

Republicans trust Big Corporations to protect us from Big Government.

Libertarians don't trust either of them, and think they can protect themselves.

Corporations only care about shareholders. They don't care about customers or employees unless what they do affects the share price. On the other hand, Politicians only care about votes. They don't care about me unless I'm a voter or what I do affects voters.

Well, I may not be much of a shareholder, but I am a voter, so the decision is obvious. If my employer screws me over, I want to be able to go to court. If where I shop screws me over, I want to be able to go to the Attorney General. And if I don't like the way services are handled in my town, I like being able to go to my Village Council and complain. Even at the Congressional level, it doesn't take many people to scream about something before we're heard. A few hundred, perhaps. Therefore, being a Democrat gives *me* more power to change things.

On the other hand, how many complaints to Dell would it take for them to fix their customer support? I'm sure they've had hundreds. It's not going to change. I was head of IT for a medium sized company at one point when one of our phone companies screwed us. Wouldn't listen to us. But, by gum, I filed a complaint with the Attorney General and it got fixed. Big Government trumping Big Business. That's what the Democratic Party is all about.

Steven said...

Here are a few reasons I can come up with for conservatism:

1. "Epistemological modesty": I loved David Brooks' column from a few days ago. A good conservative is highly skeptical of human understanding of complex systems and ability to manipulate them without fostering unintended consequences. This ideal, to me, works towards a favoring of markets. I find Hayek's arguments compelling, if I part ways with him at some of the more specific, nuts-and-bolts aspects of the so-called "Austrian school." I believe that the collective knowledge of people making their own decisions is far more than groups of technocrats directing or heavily steering the markets themselves. My ideal is a lightly-regulated but strictly-enforced system allowing people to operate freely.

2. "Belief in slow, responsible change": Robert Peel was a Tory prime minister who ushered in the repeal of the Corn Laws, a position that was highly unpopular with protectionist conservatives in his party. Peel, in my view, was an excellent conservative: he understood when change was necessary, accepting the need for reform in some cases to preserve the greater system. Fred Thompson hit at this during the campaign: 'Responsible change is the essence of conservatism.'

3. "Federalism": Different states have different priorities, and the individual states can function as "laboratories of democracy" in a federalist system. Provided that the federal government ensures equal protection, diversity in states is a good thing (unlike pre-Civil Rights era, when diversity in states led to segregation, etc.). A conservative prefers the small, more accessible state government to the national government when possible.

4. "Respect for the country's past": I reject the Howard Zinn interpretation of history outright (and not just because his work is poorly sourced). I don't believe that the history of the republic has been the struggle of working people. I believe the American republic has largely been about the gradual achievement of ideals of the 18th century Enlightenment. We're not perfect, certainly, but I don't agree with the "grievances" pushed by the left.

5. "Respect for the law": As a conservative, I found Barack Obama's statements about what's needed in judges to be appalling. From the Economist:

"Mr Obama might make good choices—his choice of advisers has usually been sound. But he has promised to pick judges for their “empathy” and “understanding” of “what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old.” That could just be campaign blather, but conservatives fear he means it: that he really does want judges to favour the underdog rather than uphold the law dispassionately as their oath of office requires. Stephen Calabresi, a conservative jurist, says an Obama court could usher in ruinous shareholder lawsuits, huge punitive damages and even a constitutional right to welfare."

This was paraphrased from remarks he made to Planned Parenthood in 2007.

On the same token, as a conservative, I don't have much admiration for the turn-of-the-century progressives like Woodrow Wilson who believed that the constitution was an obstacle to his own conceptions of rather than a guidepost of sagacity and realism. The idea of splitting sovereignty and power intentionally slowed the pace of change and the authority of government. To me, this is a blessing, not a curse.

6. "Equal opportunities instead of equal outcomes": This is just my own conception of what's fair. I don't like the idea of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need," and I don't think it works. A government's responsibility is to provide equal opportunities and a minimal safety net.

BenJones said...

Wow, this post is difficult to read. The problems here are enormous.
1) The vast majority ot repulicans (though to fair, cpac people tend to be pretty far out there) support a government that does more than enforce contracts. A hefty majority of Republicans see a role for government in publiuc transportation, just a smaller one than most democrats. Public transportation has positive externalties, so therefore a free marketer can support some intervention.
2). There are certainly bad customer service and ineffecencies in the private sector, but they are considerably smaller. Private businesses face competion, so compaies with a reputation for bad service, or poor bang for the buck will lose customers. The government does not face this competion. Do you really not know this Sean?
3)There are perfectly good reasons to be for smaller government. Like more freedom, and a more efficent economy. It not just a manifestation of negative emotion.

I was a McCain supporter, but I have read this website almost every day since August, because despite it's democratic tilt, Nate's analysis is intresting and extremely inciteful. Truth be told, I am not sure why you, (Sean), have a posting gig on this site. Your posts are extremely one sided and lack any sort of respect for oppossing views.In this post you did not make a good faith attempt to understand conservative thinking, you just assume they are biggoted and angry. That might be forgivable (like it is in Paul Krugman), if you had anything interesting to say. You mostly just trope agonizingly simmilar field organizing stories and sarcastic, uninciteful remarks about various republicans. nate would be better off replacing you, (Andrew is off to a good start), or making 538 just him.

Anyway interesting. 538 certainly gets a better class of idiot than Newshounds. But they're idiots none the less.

Friday, February 27, 2009

Ralph Hearts Fred Phelps...

It seems Ralph has found a new hero. Not a suprise really that Ralph would be a member of the Phelps cult.

Thursday, February 26, 2009

More On The Denver Paper Situation

So it's all a game...

The Denver Post is laying off all of it's non union workers... and is going to replace them with Rocky Moutain News staffers. What the fuck happened to America?

R.I.P. The Rocky Mountain News

The Rocky Mountain News publishes its last paper tomorrow.

Rich Boehne, chief executive officer of Rocky-owner Scripps, broke the news to the staff at noon today, ending nearly three months of speculation over the paper's future.

"People are in grief," Editor John Temple said a noon news conference.

But he was intent on making sure the Rocky's final edition, which would include a 52-page wraparound section, was as special as the paper itself.

"This is our last shot at this," Temple said at a second afternoon gathering at the newsroom. "This morning (someone) said it's like playing music at your own funeral. It's an opportunity to make really sweet sounds or blow it. I'd like to go out really proud."

Boehne told staffers that the Rocky was the victim of a terrible economy and an upheaval in the newspaper industry.

"Denver can't support two newspapers any longer," Boehne told staffers, some of whom cried at the news. "It's certainly not good news for you, and it's certainly not good news for Denver


It is my memory ( And Roach correct me if I am wrong) That the RMN was the more Conservative of the two newspapers in Denver though it was IMHO ( again I haven't lived in Denver since 1995 and things change) the better of the two papers. I don't buy that Denver can't support two papers and I think this a very bad and sad thing. News media shouldn't have a monopoly in a city the size of Omaha like the OWH does let alone a city the size of Denver. Sad day.

But on the plus side... credit to Ellen and Dan on Newshounds and Daily Finance It sounds as if Rupert's world has hit ahrd times...

For News Corp. (NWS) Chief Executive Rupert Murdoch, all of the news lately has been bad.

His long time right-hand man Peter Chernin reportedly is leaving his role as company president, and his daughter Elisabeth turned down a spot on News Corp's board because it would have required her to sever ties with a television production company she has spent seven years building.

Investors are growing tired of Murdoch. His $5 billion purchase of Dow Jones & Co. was not about creating shareholder value. It was about gaining political influence. The offer to the Bancroft family, which largely stopped caring about Dow Jones generations ago, was so off the charts that they would have been insane to turn him down. Since then, News Corp has been working feverishly to cut costs through layoffs.

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Open Mouth Insert Foot.

Captain America who thought a cartoon advocated shooting the President was fine because he has a sense of humor has found something that really bothers him...

Keith Olbermann is such a fucking asshole.

Watching MSNBC as Gov Jindal was coming out to give the Republican response to Obama address.

Apparently Olbermann didn't realize (once again) that he had an open mic and as soon as Jindal turned the corner Olbermann is heard saying ...

"Good god" in a disgust tone.
"You can’t see love, hope, or Faith but they are the most important things and we all know they are real."


Posted by: Captain America on Tue 2.24 10:29pm

Yeah too bad Mike it Was Matthews and not Olbermann.

I got the person and quote wrong.


Posted by: Captain America on Wed 2.25 9:19pm

For a Republican that's par for the course.

Noonan: Beware of the Obama Cult!

New Rule: when you've been blindly defending a criminal admnistration for the last eight years, you have no right to bitch and complain about the cult the new president has building around him.

My concern is that it has, at least for some, gone way beyond that. I never thought I’d see such miserable slaves in my life as I see in some of the people who nearly worship Obama....

I urge the Obamaniacs, Catholic or not, to attend Mass today…you really need to get a grip on the reality of the situation.

Also, if you spread hate, prejudice and intolerance around like a hooker spreads around the Clap, and claim to praise and woreship the Son of God, then do Jesus a favor and stop preaching hate in His name. Jesus didn't tell his Followers on the Sermond on the Mount to go forth and spread hatred becasue of x,y and z reasons.

1. fmrmarine | February 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am

He fits the bill,
has african/middle east heritage, muslem upbringing, faux Christian.
Came out of nowhere, having accomplished nothing, people sloveningly worship at his feet ( worldwide).
Speaks of peace, and has marxist belief’s. Some claim he is BI sexual….(spirit of the age).

food for thought!

Even if Obama did practice under the Religion of Islam or was bi (neither are true), the real question would be: so what? Is it not possible to be a switch-hitting, Islamic man and still be a good Commander-in-Cheif? When did we have these unwritten rules saying you had to be a straight, God-fearing Christian man in order to run for the Office of the Presidency?

Wednesday Open Thread

So Nebraska blew a 18 point lead tonight and lost to A&M at the buzzer on a three pointer. I took the loss well. I threw a bunch of books and CD's. Anyway Nothing makes you feel better after a swift kick in the nards than to read the NH Off Topic Neocon Wingnut HOF Quotes Thread. Most of the credit goes to Roach and MJ.

I start with this.

OBOMBa is another blood lusting war mongrel with a different title. Right- left, dem-rep, conservative-liberal, gay-straight, white-black, etc, etc, our country is divided. Divided for a reason. Divided We Fall, and the free-fall has began. The crash-landing will not be pleasant. One gets what one deserves, and no god in his/her mind will save us now. So keep bickering over the details on whose fault it is. The civil war has begun. Compliments of the msm, and the fools of america.
EtJ | 02.24.09 - 1:28 pm | #

Good Ole ETJ. He's the Newshounds Ayn Rand. He hates everybody. I bet he's a thrill at parties.

The jury has already decided.

The Moderator's Privilege Quorum has made its findings on the Pegleg Peggy Matter.

Item 1: Pegleg Peggy twiced called J$ a liar for saying her message was not posted because of a violation of the rules regarding language. Finding: The respondent attempted to post a message that referred to Steve Doocy as "Douchey". The respondent claims there was no inappropriate language in her post, but the rules are clear:

We've had our fill of the insipid FNC insult phrases that pervade the cybersphere, and they will not be permitted here. These include, but are not limited to, such knee-slappers as "Faux News", "O'Lielly", "Fixed Noise", "David Ass-Man", "Billo" and the like, as well as disguised versions such as "F!x;d N0;s;" etc.

The respondent's insult to Steve Doocy is clearly inappropriate and not allowed under the rules of posting. The respondent nonetheless claimed that J$ was a liar. The Quorum finds this claim to be: False

Verdict: Pegleg Peggy was given repeated opportunities to retract her name-calling and false personal attack on J$ and refused to do so. Under the rules of Moderator's Privilege, her posting privileges will not resume while she spends a lovely, relaxing time at Exile Island.

The Quorum has spoken.
johnny dollar | Homepage | 02.16.09 - 10:06 pm

You people are slobbering your way into a socialist quagmire when you lose everything but your shirt. Obama is a disaster! Whoever "made up" the approval ratings must be living in a hole. Wake up people! Wall street is crashing and you will all fall with it....until you find yourself marching for a dictator and wondering where your freedom and personal responsibility went...
nan | 02.20.09 - 10:19 pm | #

Why does this website exist? Why are you trying to snuff out the conservative voice in this country? You all sound like a bunch of socialist/communists to me!
01.XX.MMXIII | 02.23.09 - 1:15 pm | #

Hold on, we can have our differences but to compare a conservative to Hitler is simply ridiculous. It shows how little you know of history and Nazi Germany.

Let's start with the word Nazi. Nazi is short for Nation Socialist Workers Party. Hitler nationalized health care and major industries, he halted free speech (fairness doctrine anyone?), and outlawed firearms. He was a socialist and stated in no uncertain terms that he despised capitalism.

That doesn't sound like any conservative I've ever heard of. Come to think of it, it sounds a lot like the philosophy of the current administration.
RJ | 02.23.09 - 6:42 pm | #

Yeah guys, real great posts, I've learned nothing. You've done nothing to differentiate Hitler's policies from Obama's. You don't even know why Hitler invaded Poland yet you immediately drew a comparison between Hitler and Bush. I can only assume that's what a bumper sticker told you to think.

Now sit back and let me educate you. Hitler invaded Poland as part of a deep seeded hatred for Germany's loss of the Danzig region as a result of the Treaty of Versailles. He writes all about it in his book. He felt the Polish were only good as slaves and corpses and wanted them exterminated. He wanted to punish other countries for supporting the treaty.

So let's compare and contrast:
Hitler invades Poland with the idea of enslaving a nation and systematically murdering the people.

Bush invades a nation with the idea of liberating people from a dictator who enslaved and systematically murdered his own people. I don't see how you can draw a comparison.

Yes Nayef, I can speak to the differences in O'Reilly's comments, and Hitler's actions. The fact you need it explained to you speaks volumes about your mental capacity.

O'Reilly was referring to the already established base of power that has historically existed in this country. We were a nation built by white, christian men. He said illegals were a threat to that traditional base. Hitler actively rounded up people that he didn't like, put them in camps, tortured and executed them. Quite a bit different.
RJ | 02.24.09 - 9:28 am | #

Someone up there asked of something Obama has done which is similar to about giving $900 million of US taxpayer money to Palestine? Did you know that the 6th best selling book in Palestine is Mien Kampf? Imagine that.
RJ | 02.24.09 - 1:49 pm | #

Cypher and finalfurlong - "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions" - Adolph Hitler. Sure sounds like a right-winger to me. Me doth think you make stuff up.

ProfessorDuh - "Nazis and other anti-Semitic fascists, considered finance capitalism a "parasitic" "Jewish conspiracy". Fascist governments nationalized some key industries, managed their currencies and made some massive state investments. Fascist governments introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of economic interventionist measures. Fascist governments instituted state-regulated allocation of resources, especially in the financial and raw materials sectors." Conservatives don't promote that.

Someone up there asked of something Obama has done which is similar to about giving $900 million of US taxpayer money to Palestine? Did you know that the 6th best selling book in Palestine is Mien Kampf? Imagine that.
RJ | 02.24.09 - 1:49 pm | #

Glenn Beck said time and time again "I am not saying this will happen. I hope it doesn't happen." So I don't know how you can say he's a warmonger and calling for civil war.

Glenn Beck WAS on George W. Bush's case all throughout his presidency, detailing each and every abuse of power and waste in spending.

Glenn Beck would still be on CNN if he didn't get sacked. Thankfully he's on Fox News now because he stands up to O'Reilly! He tells O'Reilly when he's wrong and it kills O'Reilly that he can't do anything about it since Beck is now on Fox News.

Glenn Beck presents issues and stories, and sides of issues and sides of stories that you will not get anywhere else (esp. if you watch the O'Reillys and Hannitys, Olbermans and Maddows).

If you actually watched his program he will, time and time again, say he hopes he is wrong, that he hopes the "stimulus" actually works, and that you should take what he says with a grain of salt.

It's almost 5pm EST -- time to get ready for his show!
Brian Armstrong | 02.24.09 - 4:48 pm | #

Roachman asks...

A Glen Beck employee? Probably Damail

Hey Donqui, Arabic.html I don't assume everyone is ignorant, only liberals. Hitler and the Palestinians shared a common goal, the killing of Jews. Now Obama is funding the Palestinians. Solid.

And to everyone that brings up the slaves.....they were freed by a republican.

It took a Republican president to send the National Guard down to a southern school to force a democrat Governor to allow black kids into an all white school.

Keep electing Robert Byrd who once said, "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944
RJ | 02.24.09 - 4:38 pm | #

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Are Republican's Trying To Kill Their Party?

If Nate Silver at 538 is to be believed ( and there is no reason not to believe him) Then Michael Steele must be one of the dumbest son of a bitches on the planet.

Republican chairman Michael Steele took Neal Cavuto's bait and suggested that he might be amendable to punishing the three Republican senators -- Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and Arlen Specter -- who voted for the stimulus package by supporting primary challenges and/or cutting off funding.

There's just one problem with this. In Pennsylvania and especially in Maine, having a (R) by your name is a liability, not an asset. With leaners included, Democrats have roughly a 19-point partisan ID advantage in Maine and 16 points in the Keystone State. Collins, Snowe and Specter get re-elected in spite of being Republican, not because of it.

Dipshit Alert!

I love that :) I stole it from... they seem to have a fine blog. Anyway here is the dipshit alert. from the Alan Keyes Thread...

Anonymous said...

Hey count how come your picture isnt on the newshounds forum thread? Too ugly for the internet are ya?

Monday, February 23, 2009

Ralph's Latest Hate Screed


From the "I'm Not Paranoid, But They're Out To Get Me" Department...

Thanks to the always-excellent Jesus' General, I found this beyond-crazy column from a Seattle-area newspaper. I just had to share its stunning paranoia with you all:
I don’t want to alarm anybody but I’ve been a little apprehensive over what I found in the change kicked out by the till at one of the local stores the other day.

It was a 10-shillings coin from the Republic of Somalia dated 2002. It has a dromedary camel on one side and a coat of arms on the other.

No, I have never been to Somalia. All I really know about Somalia is that it is the home base of a gang of pirates who prey on the 18,000 ships that travel through the Gulf of Aden each year. And piracy is on the rise...

Now, I know I am making a whole lot out of one little coin, but one does not expect a coin from Somalia to show up in grocery store change in Puget Sound unless someone from Somalia parted with it. Are we being scouted for an attack on our ferry system?
I can only imagine how the writer - an elderly lady named Adele Ferguson, a regular columnist for the paper in question, who looks like every neighbor you've ever had come running out of her screen porch to tell those kids to get off her lawn - must freak out if somebody is "looking at her funny" at the post office, or perhaps suspiciously letting her take the last open parking space in the lot.

I would add that most Washington State Ferries are somewhere between "rustbucket" and "garbage scow" designation and could probably be handily overpowered by a Brownie troop armed with nothing more than Hello Kitty backpacks and maybe a bent paper clip. Not the most tempting targets for piracy.

There may be hope and change in DC, but wingnuttery remains alive and well in the Washington that I can see from my house.

Do read the whole "article." And the single published response is equally priceless.

Edit From The Count:

The author of the article.

In Right Wing Fantasy Land Obama is Hitler

Obama enjoys high ratings in the polls--- sounds familiar. So did Hitler in the 30s among the most educated citizenry of Europe. Oen can only hope that the trance that our elites and others have trapped themselves in will fade fast.

No doubt about it - the demagogue Dems have jumped over the edge into the abyss of hysteria. Accusing the GOP of being racist is the result of guilt. What better way to deflect guilt than by accusing others. It is the dems who bear the sole guilt for maintaining obscene poverty rates in the Black community through socialist plantation big brother schemes. Tanmmany tried that with the immigrants in the 19th century and they keep up the hypocrisy Blacks and other possible victim groups they can exploit.

"Right America: Feeling Wronged."

The New HBO Documentary by Alexandra Pelosi "Right America: Feeling Wronged." debuted. I refuse to watch it. I have been told from friends who have seen it that it is amazing how moronic McCain-Palin's most vocal idiots come off. The "Liberal" Washington Post whines that it paints an unfair portrait of Conservatives. Of course there are many who aren't on the lunatic fringe but we also know there are many who are. We saw them everyday on the news especially after Palin joined the ticket. We deal with them on blogs everyday. We laugh at their blogs like Americaphile but make no mistake these people are dangerous especially when they are given an avenue to express their beliefs. Glenn Beck on Fox has become the second right wing ideologue to suggest Civil War. These people do not taking losing well.

Like I said I refuse to watch it. I even object to the title these sick fucks are anything but "right America" but if you have seen it please discuss.

EDIT: This Post from MJ is just too good not to repost it here...

Retired CIA analyst Michael Scheuer even suggested that he approved of any ensuing Civil War. “I don't think the founders ever considered that there would be a tyranny of incompetence but I think that's what we're facing. And ultimately, that's the right of the American.”

OK - lemme see if I've got this straight . . .

These wingnut sons of bitches didn't say a fucking word when Bush said the US Constitution was just a "g-d piece of paper," and then proceeded to wipe his rear with it by suspending habeas corpus, illegally wiretapping US citizens, and torturing prisoners in Gitmo . . .

. . . and now these m'effers wanna yell about a "tyranny of incompetence"??

F Glenn Beck, F these a-holes, and F the Fox Comedy Channel . . . this SOB Scheuer needs to be arrested for advocating treason against the US gov't . .

Sunday, February 22, 2009

Oscars Thread

I'll be posting the winners on and make general comments on how I think the show is going. The Count is welcome to join me if it is his wish.

The Count: This is your Baby Jonathan. :) I will say I think this has been a better year for movies than most.

Update: Slumdog is sweeping up Awards: Adapted Screenplay, Cinematography, Film Editing, and Sound Mixing (I think I have that right).

Penelope won for Vicky Cristina Barcelona (well deserved) and Heath Ledger won for The Dark Knight, with his family accepting the award in his honor.

Benjamin Button won for Visual Effects, Makeup and Art Direction, as expected.

So far, so familiar......but wait! Suprise: Hugh Jackman is really good as host! And for next year, either have Steven Colbert or Will Smith due hosting duties.

Update 8:08 - Jerry Lewis win an Honary Oscar, while Slumdog continues it's hot streak, winning Best Original Song (Jai Ho) and Orginal Score, both won by composer A.R. Rahman (That's a total of 6 Academy Awards won so far)

Now comes the In Memorian, the the biggies: Actor, Actress, Director and Picture.

Update 8:25 - Make that 7 Oscars won for Slumdog. Danny Boyle won Best Director.

Update 9:01 - Kate finally wins one.

Shock: Penn beats Rourke for Actor!

And Slumdog wins Best Picture, making that a total of 8 Academy Awards won.

Friday, February 20, 2009

Rhetorical Question: Is Alan Keyes Fucking Nuts Or What?

From Raw Story with video

Alan Keyes, a three-time presidential candidate, called President Obama a "radical communist" and a "usurper" and said with him in charge, America "is going to cease to exist" at a pro-life fundraiser Thursday.

"Obama is a radical communist and I think it is becoming clear. That is what I told people in Illinois and now everybody realizes it is coming true," said Keyes who ran unsuccessfully against Obama for the Senate in 2004. "He is going to destroy this country and we are either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist," said Keyes.

In an interview in Hastings, Neb. with a KHAS reporter at the fundraiser, Keyes called Obama an "abomination" for some of his pro-choice views.

"The man is an abomination," Keyes said, going on to accuse Obama of being supportive of infanticide. "That is a man with such a seared conscience, I can't even understand why anyone in their right mind would consider him worthy of political support."

Keyes also claimed that Obama had no standing to be president. Keyes said Obama was actually born in Kenya and so did not meet the Constitutional presidency requirements of being a natural-born U.S. citizen.

He said Obama was a "usurper occupying the office without constitutional warrant."

"He has refused to provide proof that he is in fact a natural-born citizen," Keyes said. "I'm not even sure he is president of the United States."

When the reporter interviewing him apparently cracked a smile at this, Keyes angrily responded with "that is not a laughing matter. We're going to find ourselves in the midst of chaos, confusion and civil war."

Keyes is one of several people who have filed lawsuits challenging Obama's citizenship.

Despite his far-right views, Keyes was not adverse to joining Michael Moore's traveling mosh pit during the 2000 presidential campaign. Moore, a left-leaning documentarian who is often demonized by the right, promised Keyes that if he joined the mosh pit, he would receive his endorsement.

KHAS has more details here.

Friday Open Thread

Since I forgot to make an Open Thread Wednesday I'll make a Friday Open thread.

Roach I got ET's emails and I promise I will answer.

I read the latest update thread from Kim and saw that she was getting ready to start Chemo on Monday. She and IB are certainly in my thoughts and prayers. They sound like truly amazing people.

's Good Ammo thread is pretty funny.

RIP Socks 1989-2009

Thursday, February 19, 2009

Steele: GOP needs 'hip-hop' makeover


Under Mr. Steele's helm, the “old” may seem inappropriate in the Grand Old Party's affectionate nickname. He said he is putting a new public relations team into place to update the party's image.

“It will be avant garde, technically,” he said. “It will come to table with things that will surprise everyone - off the hook.”

ABC NEWS VIA GETTY IMAGES Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele says the Grand Old Party is in need of an "off the hook" public relations offensive to attract young blacks and Hispanics.

Does that mean cutting-edge?

“I don't do 'cutting-edge,' “ he said. “That's what Democrats are doing. We're going beyond cutting-edge.”

Oh, God.
The GOP's plan is to go 'hip-hop?'
This coming from the party of the extreme right wing who screech 'Blame Pedro for taking your jobs!', the evangelicals who believe Jesus will come and take his Followers home, and the architects of the Southern Strategy?

Political Oscars

Hat tip to Arianan Huffington. Here are some of the winners she selected:

Sex Scene:
Best: Kate Winslet and David Kross in The Reader
Worst: Eliot Spitzer and Ashley Dupré in Client #9

Rip Off:
Best: the compromising photo stolen in The Bank Job
Worst: the $50 billion Bernie Madoff stole from his hapless clients

Return on Investment:
Best: Slumdog Millionaire, which cost $15 million to make and has grossed over $130 million worldwide.
Worst: the $350 billion we gave to Wall Street banks -- with nothing to show for it.

Best: The Dark Knight, Christopher Nolan's brooding follow up to Batman Begins
Worst: TARP II, Tim Geithner's vague follow up to Hank Paulson's Bailout Begins

Here are my winners:

Actor in a Supporting Role
Best: Heath Ledger
Worst: Joe the Plumber

Achievement in Visual Effects
Best: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Worst: John McCain's promise to run a respectful campaign

Breakthrough Performance by an Actor or Actress
Best: Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
Worst: Sarah Palin, The Maverick and the MILF

Best: "O...Saya", A.R. Rahman and M.I.A.
Worst: "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran", John McCain

Best: Bollywood musical number at the end of Slumdog Millionaire
Worst: Barack Obama showing off his dance moves, Crapdance

Actress in a Leading Role
Best: Anne Hathaway, Rachel Getting Married
Worst: Hillary Clinton, A Very Long Engagement

On-Screen Duo
Best: Seth Rogen & James Franco, Pineapple Express
Worst: Fmr. Gov. Rod Blagojevich & Sen. Roland Burris, Dumb & Dumber

Romantic Leading Man
Best: Hugh Jackman, Australia
Worst: John Edwards, The Heartbreak Kid

Have at it!

She Eats Other Meat Than Bill O'Reilly

Blatant sexuality used to convince people to go vegan? A stupid and disgusting ad. Typical of PETA. Somebody get me a cheeseburger.

Megyn Kelly is not a homophobe.

Wednesday, February 18, 2009

NY Post Racist? No?

The Cartoon is meant I guess to parody the chimp that went crazy after it's idiot owner gave him a Xanax but it's clear from the caption that the chimp is suppose to be Barack Obama so not only is it racist it advocates killing the President. Nice Job Rupert.

Tuesday, February 17, 2009

For Claudo

Houndwatcher is a pedophile

"Well, well. The Hounds are aghast at some pictures that children might see. Have any of you been to a middle or high school lately and seen all the cleavage hanging out?
Hound Watcher | 02.21.08 - 5:43 pm | # "

He's not helping himself

It's called teaching. I'm just trying to help the little devils get the leftist propaganda out of their mush for brains.

Ever hear of substitute teaching? You really don't have both oars in the water.

Sunday, February 15, 2009

Nerd Alert! Nerd Alert!

There is one simple fact that many people can't seem to get around. We can't help mocking Star Wars fans ( at least the stereotype of a Star Wars fan) and yet we ourselves are Star Wars fans. So as I watch the conclusion Of Attack of The Clones on Spike allow me to put on the nerd glasses and pocket protector...

The Best Star Wars Film:

The Empire Strikes Back
: Is this even debatable? I mean really? I love all 6 movies but this is head and shoulders above the rest. And for once the best character in the series wins out.

The Worst Star Wars Film:

The Phantom Menace: The films biggest flaw is one that it has no control over. The kids who were 10 when they fell in love with Star Wars were now 32 when the Phantom Menace came out. And for better or for worse the films are meant for 10 year olds or the 10 year olds in all of us. I admit a love for this film mainly because it get's bashed so much but it's still clearly the worst of the series.

The Most Overrated Star Wars Film:

Star Wars A New Hope. : Ok it's the first film and that alone should gets it lots of love but it's the dullest film of the series...yes even duller than the Phantom Menace.

The Most Underrated Star Wars Film:

Attack Of The Clones:
Yeah Yeah Yeah I know what you're thinking but I love it and I think it's unquestionably in the top half of the series. Every time I see it I wonder what are they bitching about? The dialogue? The acting? There are a lot of reasons to love the original trilogy acting and dialogue were not two of them.

My Rankings Of The Star Wars Films

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Revenge Of The Sith
3. Attack Of The Clones
4. Return Of The Jedi
5. Star Wars A New Hope
6. The Phantom Menace.

Saturday, February 14, 2009

Educating Liberals Get's Educated

I saw the O'Reilly piece this morning when it was rebroadcast. It was not a hit piece on the region the way it is presented here. I really must laugh at the pseudo-intellectuals who equate FOX viewers with residents of Appalachia. I would be willing to bet that 80% of the people interviewed in that segment consider themselves Democrats. The "Party of the Working Man" nonsense still holds some sway with the uninformed.

MJ a Newshounds regular knocks this clown out of the park.

"Not a hit piece on the region . . ."

So - I guess comments like " . . . They have to wise up and they have to see that there's a culture of poverty there, a culture of ignorance there . . ." are just compliments, right?

"I would be willing to bet . . ."

McCain beat Obama

• 56% to 43% in WV
• 57% to 41% in KY
• 57% to 42% in TN

You may want to bet on something safer instead - like TV Poker.

"The 'Party of the Working Man' nonsense still holds some sway with the uninformed."

Just as the "Party of Personal Responsibility" nonsense held sway with the uninformed - at least until 2006 and 2008.

If this is your attempt at "educating liberals," I suggest you go back and get more instruction - and an education of your own . . .

And to answer Claudo

If Orally has written off Apalachia (the "heartland" of republicanism) what's left. Lessee, he hates the West Coast (too liberal, too gay, too Hollywood (too Jewish, Bill?) too Democratic) New England is definitely on the black list (too liberal, too gay, too Democratic). New York - maybe upstate is OK but the Big Apple is definitely not (see categories for West Coast). Bill lives in a Long Island mini mansion in a Democratic House district so he must be very uncomfortable there. (yeah, right) Wisconsin, according to Bill, is a hotbed of Satanism and too liberal. Minnesota is the home of Al Franken. Colorado is definitely too liberal. What's left?

Nebraska, Though not district 2, Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Texas, and the south minus Florida, North Carolina and Virginia. Bottom line you can't win a national election with just these states.

Profiles In Stupidity

So its been a while since I've done any kind of an update on Blogs For

They've lost their fucking minds.
1. cluster | February 13th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Do you think it is important that our elected representatives have a chance to actually read what they will be voting on?

I mean, alot of people voted for Obama without knowing what he actually stood for, or would do. In fact, considering Obama’s election, I think most voters now just vote on emotion, hyperbole, and platitudes.

Shouldn’t that be good enough for Congress?

I wonder if Pelosi even understands what’s in the bill. She does understand though that newborns are a drain on the economy.

With a mind like that leading the Democratic party, is it any wonder why people like bloch, coulter, orlando and sar have pledged their allegiance?

14. js02 | February 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
well…there is always a possibility…that the courts will wake up and demand that obamacide prove he is, in fact…an american citizen eligible to be president…

cause that would probably put him out on his arse back to chicago with fraud charges and a sentence in a federal pen….

and then we could move that all these executive orders and laws he and his donkyrat buddies passed are void…

76. js02 | February 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
you guys keep talking like you actually won…but look at the trash you have representing you…obamacide…who knows if he is actually an american citizen…pelosi…whose mind is solidly a product of LSD…and reid…the guy who is a willing participant with the mafia in real estate wheeling and dealing…(or should we say…2 cylcles)…

gee…obama couldnt figure out that the trinity and wright was a racist organization…and you expect HIM to lead us?

you should really figure out exactly what that “whin” got you…

79. jeremiah | February 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
The Democrats know full well what they’re doing, Mark! They’re not stupid! They’re aim is to destroy free market Capitalism.

You got to understand like I said before, how wicked evil Democrats are!

The real …. stupid people …. are the voters! There’s where the stupid people are!

Dumber than rocks!

Happy Valentines Day

Friday, February 13, 2009

Caption This

Yeah I got this from Newshounds :)

Thursday, February 12, 2009

People Are Idiots

Spring Game Tickets Going for High Prices on the Internet

Athletic department stresses many tickets still remain

by Samuel McKewon

February 11, 2009

A quick glance at StubHub, an online ticket outlet for sporting and entertainment events, displays tickets for the Daytona 500, Britney Spears concerts and the Los Angeles Lakers.

Another, perhaps surprising entry: Tickets to Nebraska’s Red/White Spring Game on April 19. Some for as many as $253 around the 50-yard line. That’s a $243 markup from the $10 price that NU set for any seat inside Memorial Stadium. But most of the 279 tickets being sold on StubHub, and many of the tickets found on other sites, are located on the sidelines.

Partially because tickets were available online – and tickets were assigned to seats for the first time - more than 52,000 tickets were sold in the first two or three days after they went on sale Feb. 4. Instead of fans arriving on game day and rushing to the best seats, the earliest in line on the day of sale got the benefit of the finest, closest sight lines.

The NU Athletic Department reiterated Wednesday that 18,700 tickets remain for the game. But some of the best seats are now for sale on Internet because purchasers were able to buy blocks of tickets – 20 at a time online, and 100 per group for sideline seats.

Um It's the spring game. A scrimmage Nebraska is playing themselves. Tickets are $10 and that's what I paid for mine. Why would anybody pay $250 to see a scrimmage?

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Wednesday Open Thread

Drama Queen Favre retired AGAIN

North Carolina-Duke tonight. Go Heels!

I am sick with sore throat and can't talk (which is a good thing for those around me)

Anyway...anything you want to post about, Even the idiot that posted last night who was upset he couldn't get his comments on Newshounds, Post away.

Monday, February 9, 2009

Isn't work considered a job, Mr. Steel?

RNC Chair: jobs in governemnt are not really jobs.

STEELE: You've got to look at what's going to create sustainable jobs. What this administration is talking about is making work. It is creating work.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But that's a job.

STEELE: No, it's not a job. A job is something that -- that a business owner creates. It's going to be long term. What he's creating...

STEPHANOPOULOS: So a job doesn't count if it's a government job?


STEELE: Hold on. No, let me -- let me -- let me finish. That is a contract. It ends at a certain point, George. You know that. These road projects that we're talking about have an end point.

As a small-business owner, I'm looking to grow my business, expand my business. I want to reach further. I want to be international. I want to be national. It's a whole different perspective on how you create a job versus how you create work. And I'm -- either way, the bottom line is...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I guess I don't really understand that distinction.

STEELE: Well, the difference -- the distinction is this. If a government -- if you've got a government contract that is a fixed period of time, it goes away. The work may go away. That's -- there's no guarantee that that -- that there's going to be more work when you're done in that job.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Yes, but we've seen millions and millions of jobs going away in the private sector just in the last year.

STEELE: But they come -- yes, they -- and they come back, though, George. That's the point. When they go -- they've gone away before, and they come back.

Saturday, February 7, 2009

We Finally Beat Texas In Something

Just got back from Lincoln. I am so proud of myself :) I made it up to my seat handicap be damned. It's 65 degrees out and I wasn't about to let this opportunity to see a game pass...


LINCOLN, Neb. -- With the shot clock winding down, Ade Dagunduro had no choice but to launch the 3-pointer that gave Nebraska a four-point lead in the final minute against No. 16 Texas.

"That's not usually my shot," Dagunduro said, "but it was desperation time."It's starting to become desperation time for Texas now.Saturday's 58-55 loss to the Cornhuskers was the third straight for a Longhorn team that has reached the Elite Eight two of the last three years.Texas (15-7, 4-4 Big 12) came into the game off home losses to Kansas State and Missouri by a combined eight points. The three-point loss dropped the Longhorns into the middle of the pack in the conference and marks the first time since 2004-05 that the Longhorns have dropped three straight."We've lost five or six games by one or two possessions," Texas coach Rick Barnes said. "We are what we are, and that's the bottom line. We haven't won those games, and we've lost some games on the last possessions where teams make plays on us, and you have to give them credit for it."Nebraska (15-7, 5-4), which took sole possession of fourth place with its third straight win, outplayed Texas with little more than their sheer will to win. The Huskers are a small team with only one player as tall as 6-foot-8. The Longhorns shuffled in three players who are 6-10 but outrebounded Nebraska just 34-30.

If Doc Sadler isn't Big XII Coach of the year...

Oh For Fuck's Sake Not Only Is There A "Blat" But That Picture Is Really Him.

I must admit I was not familiar with "Blat". I came too late to the Newshounds Party to ever enjoy his presence all I knew of him was the great work of ET and Kim ( and others) that I had read on the troll blog. (I want some of those discount pins by the way) But I was reading the new off topic Wiki (hope that wasn't a secret) and it seems that not only is "blat" real but he's an actual productive? member of society. His name is Brian Lathe and amazingly the pictures on the troll blog are actually him. I thought for sure that ET and the gang tried to find a picture of the dumbest idiot they could find and call him "blat" but no that's really him.

Brian lathe's face book picture.

It seems Brian is quite the internet star. He has his own Town Hall blog in addition to his own blog. He's got some feud going with these folks...more here he seems like a real sweetheart!

Mr. Robert Burtis:

You, are an IDIOT, an IMBECILE, and not worthy of breathing Minnesota air.

With an ego the size of yours, I don't know how you manage to walk through doorways.

It is obvious that you are a LIBERAL and live in a dream world.

One last thought: LIARS BURN IN HELL (source: Bible)

Brian Lathe

But wait there's more!

Here's his business blog his public profile his twitter page another blog it seems at one point he was a vitamin salesmen ...

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B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B9, B12, Biotin and Inositol. Only Eniva
Managers can receive the 20% discount. Please ask
me how you can receive the Manager discount price!

Ebay customers pay no shipping on monthly special item
purchases (while supplies last)!
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February Manager Special: $14.35
posted by Brian | 1:39 PM

I am sure there is plenty more.

He uses this picture on all of his sites. I still can't believe that is actually his picture. It's so easy when the jokes write themselves.

Friday, February 6, 2009

She's Busy Tonight

"Olbermann doesn't lie..." - Visitor 55

Yes, he does. He spread the lie about Sarah Palin cutting the special needs budget up in Alaska (along with another human services budget); that was debunked. Olberdude has also said that Bernie Goldberg got fired from CBS News and that Michelle Malkin got fired from "The O'Reilly Factor" ( both of them quit).
No attempt whatsoever at addressing my point. Gee, isn't that surprising?

Well, no, it isn't.
The official word from both Malkin and Goldberg is that they quit. It's up to Olbermann to present some documentation that they were actually fired, and he has never presented any.

Thursday, February 5, 2009

Damial Still Defending Her Man

Newshounds linked to an article on the website Jossip so of course Damail couldn't let an opportunity pass to show her man a little lovin. The Bold comments are from NH the Italics are from Jossip.

Gee, thanks for informing me about that piece. I decided to leave a response.


Bub, you are lying through your tooth gap. Do you actually think the examples you cited point to racism and homophobia on the part of O'Reilly? Step away from the crack pipe and get a reality check.

Keith Olbermann lies, and he does so continuosly. Most recently, he told his audience that Bernard Goldberg was fired from CBS News. (Wrong, Bathtub Boy. Goldberg quit.) During the campaign, he spouted something from Think Progress about Sarah Palin cutting the special needs budget in Alaska. Another lie.

And here is the worst feature of Olbermann's "journalism" - his absolute cowardice. He doesn't allow the opposition on his show anymore. His targets are never allowed on so they have a chance to defend themselves. And Olbermann will never go on any conservative talk show to debate the issues. Both Micheal Medved and Dennis Prager invited him on after Olbermann named them both Worst Person.

Olbermann ran away and hid.

Bill O'Reilly's show is a thousand times more informative and honest. That's why he cleans Olbermann's clock in the ratings nearly every night. Put that in your bong and smoke it.

I'd love to see such a debate. Since Olbermann never debates people who fundamentally disagree with him, it would be highly unlikely.

And since O'Reilly refuses to even say Olbermann's name (I wish he would drop that strategy), that also makes it unlikely.

'All advertising revenue given to charity..." - I like that idea, by the way.

"No one on the opposite side accepts the invitation..."

That's not what Keith told Howard Kurtz on CNN's "Reliable Sources".

No. 13 · Damail

Thanks for once again reminding us how violence-prone some lefties are. Oh, by the way, didn't they teach you to use capital letters in English 101?

And what I said about "Countdown" is 100% accurate.

I have to give credit to amused one Newshounds for this...

I decided to leave a response.
Damail | 02.05.09 - 11:35 am | #

Was it of the "LEAVE BILL O'REILLY ALONE because I wuv wuv wuv him" variety?

You know her don't you?

Get Well Ruth...

WASHINGTONSupreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had surgery Thursday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, the court said. Pancreatic cancer is often deadly, although the court said doctors apparently found Ginsburg's cancer at an early stage.

Ginsburg, 75, had the surgery at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York. She will remain in the hospital for seven to 10 days, said her surgeon, Dr. Murray Brennan, according to a release issued by the court. The hospital had no comment on Ginsburg.

The only woman on the court, Ginsburg has been a justice since 1993. She is a liberal-leaning justice who has been vocal in recent years about the court's more conservative stance.

President Barack Obama expressed hope for her speedy recovery, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday, and offered his thoughts and prayers.

Thank God Barack Obama is President.

Wednesday, February 4, 2009

Mark Noonan is too full of himself, methinks

Mark, you seriously need to come down from that high horse you rode in on. Had it not been for the fact that your party had royally f'ed things up this bad for eight years, you'd still have Capitol Hill and the White House under your control.

What really bugs me about this and Gates at Defense as well as other possible GOP appointments? That we GOPers might end up saving Obama from himself…in order to save the country, we might saddle ourselves with a second Obama term.

Ah, well, patriotism does at times require one to do distasteful things…

Wednesday Open Thread

This is the start of something kind of new. Every Wednesday I will have an Open thread. Anything you want to post about goes. We'll see how this goes.

Monday, February 2, 2009

Maybe This Why So Many In Arizona Are Complaining About Having To Watch A Fuck Job

PHOENIX (AP) - A Tucson television station's broadcast of the Super Bowl on Sunday was interrupted for some viewers by about 10 seconds of pornographic material, the station said.

KVOA TV in Tucson released a statement saying that the only viewers who were able to see the material were those who receive the channel through Comcast cable.

The station said it will investigate the incident.

"When the NBC feed of the Super Bowl was transmitted from KVOA to local cable providers and through over-the-air antennas, there was no pornographic material," KVOA president and general manager Gary Nielsen said in a statement.

The KVOA statement said the station was dismayed and disappointed that some Comcast customers and their families were subjected to the material.

"KVOA will continue to investigate what happened to our clean signal and make sure our viewers get answers," Nielsen said in the statement.

Comcast spokeswoman Tracy Baumgartner confirmed that the company's standard feed was interrupted during the Super Bowl, although she said its high definition feed was not.

Baumgartner said engineers were investigating Sunday night.

Tucson media outlets reported that they received calls from irate viewers about the pornographic material.

A spokesman for Cox Cable said the company had not been affected.

"We have received no evidence that any inappropriate material was broadcast on any of our channels during the Super Bowl," Mike Dunne said. "The alleged incident appears to be isolated to the Comcast territory. We will offer our support to all appropriate organizations to help them determine what happened."

Joel Hilander of Tucson told The Associated Press that he and his young children saw the clip.

"I couldn't believe it. And I couldn't believe that my children were watching it either," Hilander said.

He said the interruption came just after the Arizona Cardinals' Larry Fitzgerald scored on a long touchdown reception during the final minutes of the game.

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