CafeenMan, I'm an honorably discharged Navy veteran who was 41 years old when the war started. I volunteered my services in 1979 when war with Iran seemed emminint, and spent four years doing whatever the government saw fit to do with me. I consider my dues paid, I'm sorry I didn't die or get a limb or two blown off to please you. If you can possibly come up with a less valid talking point, let me know.
Liz: Not seeing the comparison of Israel relevant to harming our national interests.
Rumsfeld was shaking his hand because he was the middle east