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Friday, January 25, 2008
How Much Longer Can Newshounds Last?
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It's cutting off their nose to spite their face on the mains, in my view, Count. The commentary and interaction is what gives the site its dynamism...and its traffic. No commentary, no blog, no impact.
I think it also does a disservice to the many regulars who have been loyal to the site for years and who have not been troll-baiters.
A bit like taking down the house numbers on your mailbox because you're tired of getting junk mail. Think about what else you might want to see that you're missing.
I'd like to see them - or shall I say Chrish, since it's primarily her threads - reconsider.
It's not just Chrish's threads, it's all the threads that are suffering. Where did all the posters go on Ellen's threads, or Donna's? It's like the regulars are pretty disgusted and turned off by this whole thing. I've said before that I can understand Chrish's frustration and anger, but I'm also pretty sure that her actions are exactly the wrong thing to do, especially in a business that depends on the cooperation, community feeling and trust of an anonymous group of people. I would imagine that many in our little community feel betrayed right now.
FOLKS, IGNORE THE TROLL. IF YOU DON'T STOP ENGAGING HIM, I AM GOING TO TURN COMMENTS OFF FOR THIS THREAD. Ellen | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:52 am --- Right. And drive away the last few remaining loyal posters. Count, I finally figured it out: Moderating the thread and eliminating the troll posts requires much more effort and attention than does threats and punishment of the regulars, who all dutifully submit their email addresses. Now I'm starting to get aggravated.
Hell,I just got called down on the mains for using "inflammatory language" and I didn't even use a SINGLE vulgar word or phrase. I simply said that I felt like Neocons were "rabid Dog" that needed removing from the political equation.
WTF is going on in some people's heads? If that's inflammatory,then I've got nuts made of solid silver encrusted with rhinestones.
And some mods has been known to tell people to go to off topic and then follow them over there and harass them over there. I just hope this thing gets solved soon.
Yakki, I was lurking the NH thread when that happened to you. I kept re-reading the thread to find what she was talking about and couldn't find anything inflammatory. When she finally pointed out what she was complaining about, I still couldn't believe it. What a bunch of fucking shit.
A web site can just sit there and expose falsehoods and distortion all day long.
The purpose of a blog is to get people Fired Up and Talking About It. That's what Newshounds DID and why it became a troll target.
If you make it impossible for people to Talk About It, then you're defeating the purpose from the outset. And the trolls win. Expose away, it doesn't stick. Game over.
I understand the Hounds' issues, having dealt with spammers and the like on our own business site...but I think this approach is way off base. It dissuades their supporters and rewards their foes. It is short-sighted and counterproductive.
Look,I've been banned on the mains before,like twice. So when I came back from my hiatus I desided to try my best not to go into orangutan mode.
But hells,from where I'm sitting that's not even working. I might as well have been cussing a blue streak and bopping trolls like a whack-a-mole. If I'm gonna get accused of the crime,I might as well do it,right?
Thing that pissed me off most,is Smovi has been on the thread since day before yesterday,and his initial comment is still,as of 5 minutes ago,STILL, ON THE BLOG.
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It's cutting off their nose to spite their face on the mains, in my view, Count. The commentary and interaction is what gives the site its dynamism...and its traffic. No commentary, no blog, no impact.
I think it also does a disservice to the many regulars who have been loyal to the site for years and who have not been troll-baiters.
A bit like taking down the house numbers on your mailbox because you're tired of getting junk mail. Think about what else you might want to see that you're missing.
I'd like to see them - or shall I say Chrish, since it's primarily her threads - reconsider.
It's not just Chrish's threads, it's all the threads that are suffering.
Where did all the posters go on Ellen's threads, or Donna's? It's like the regulars are pretty disgusted and turned off by this whole thing. I've said before that I can understand Chrish's frustration and anger, but I'm also pretty sure that her actions are exactly the wrong thing to do, especially in a business that depends on the cooperation, community feeling and trust of an anonymous group of people. I would imagine that many in our little community feel betrayed right now.
FOLKS,
IGNORE THE TROLL. IF YOU DON'T STOP ENGAGING HIM, I AM GOING TO TURN COMMENTS OFF FOR THIS THREAD.
Ellen | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:52 am
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Right. And drive away the last few remaining loyal posters.
Count, I finally figured it out: Moderating the thread and eliminating the troll posts requires much more effort and attention than does threats and punishment of the regulars, who all dutifully submit their email addresses.
Now I'm starting to get aggravated.
Hell,I just got called down on the mains for using "inflammatory language" and I didn't even use a SINGLE vulgar word or phrase. I simply said that I felt like Neocons were "rabid Dog" that needed removing from the political equation.
WTF is going on in some people's heads? If that's inflammatory,then I've got nuts made of solid silver encrusted with rhinestones.
And some mods has been known to tell people to go to off topic and then follow them over there and harass them over there. I just hope this thing gets solved soon.
Yakki,
I was lurking the NH thread when that happened to you. I kept re-reading the thread to find what she was talking about and couldn't find anything inflammatory. When she finally pointed out what she was complaining about, I still couldn't believe it.
What a bunch of fucking shit.
It's overreaction in a major way.
A web site can just sit there and expose falsehoods and distortion all day long.
The purpose of a blog is to get people Fired Up and Talking About It. That's what Newshounds DID and why it became a troll target.
If you make it impossible for people to Talk About It, then you're defeating the purpose from the outset. And the trolls win. Expose away, it doesn't stick. Game over.
I understand the Hounds' issues, having dealt with spammers and the like on our own business site...but I think this approach is way off base. It dissuades their supporters and rewards their foes. It is short-sighted and counterproductive.
Look,I've been banned on the mains before,like twice. So when I came back from my hiatus I desided to try my best not to go into orangutan mode.
But hells,from where I'm sitting that's not even working. I might as well have been cussing a blue streak and bopping trolls like a whack-a-mole. If I'm gonna get accused of the crime,I might as well do it,right?
Thing that pissed me off most,is Smovi has been on the thread since day before yesterday,and his initial comment is still,as of 5 minutes ago,STILL, ON THE BLOG.
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