John Gibson: What's taking Brits so long to take action against Iran?
The posts made by "Independent Thought" were made by a troll using a regulars name.
fsharp, If you ever served your country you would know that the majority of the miitary does lean to the right.
USA Today poll (and I hate polls but you asked for the info) shows 59% of active military claim to be Republicans, 20% claim to be independent and 13% claim to be democrats. Obviously, 7% didn't respond to that part of the survey.
There won't ba any war between Iran and Britain. The Brits have been pussies for a long time now.
We shouldn't invade Iran. They captured British troops. They should be the ones dropping the bombs all over that wasteland.
As Claudo said "and annihiliate the Americans." That would make you so happy. That is your wish and unfortunately, maybe, one day, you will get it.
There will be on Iran invasion. You got what you wanted...a congress with no backbone that will not stand up to anyone, anywhere. Don't worrry, with Hitlery in charge, we will have that military whittled down to nothing in a few years. We can close all those military bases here in the USA and turn them into government housing for the "disadvantaged."
Cyrus, I have no problem with the Iranian people. It is the government that is the problem. Like I said, the Europeans will do nothing to get their personnel back. Neither will we.
Claudo, Don't apoligize for me. When I do something that needs aplogizing for, I can handle it.
"When the eagles are silent, the parrots beging to jabber"
Winston ChurchillYou do realize that we have a VOLUNTEER military, right? I mean, use some logic. The war in Iraq has been going on for 4 years. In four years time, how many soldiers currently serving have either enlisted for the first time or reenlisted? A good amount? I bet so.
Independent Thought | 03.28.07 - 1:14 pm | #
I was talking with a casual acquaintance the other day, and he said his brother was home on leave for a few days before he left for Iraq.
And I said that must be tought to deal with. He just chuckled and said, it was his 3rd tour in Iraq, and he volunteered for every one of them.
Of course they aren't terrorists. The Iranians are, silly little boy.
If John Q Iran's government is comprised of terrorists, what does it say about him/her?
Yeah, I am sure that's what did it. That's kinda like how you people became so anti-Iranian after Ahmadinejad denied the Haulocost and said Israel needed to be wiped away. I am also sure that America received a fair shake from the Iranian-run state media.
No, that's the response from you that I anticipated. You have more in common with the Iranians than you think: you are Canadian? So, your government owns the airwaves, too? See how American liberals preach tolerance, yet side with oppression of dissent. I guess that's why you don't like Fox.
I know, I know. I have heard this argument from libs before. The troops are pawns. They are too stupid to know that they may have go to Iraq.
Liberal: The person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.
Sandman
You know nothing about me. How to avoid what? It takes a lot of effort to go down to a recruiting office, take a physical, go through MEPS, and sign on the dotted line.
You are very ignorant. Every soldier is a rifleman. That is what 9 weeks of Basic Training does for you. Then, after Basic, you go to AIT, which is specialized training, ie mechanics or truck driver or infantry. Remember, you people know nothing about me. And, Paul, when one decideds to sign on the dotted line at MEPS, are they doing it for "fellow soldiers" they haven't even met yet? Doubt it.
I don't like to see anyone die. The difference between you and I is that I realize that soldiers volunteer to serve. Is it your or my business to tell them not to serve? Doubt it.
Look, I will tell you why people think you guys are hypocrites. I am sure you have heard about that antiwar demonstration in Portland, Oregon. Atleast those people were consistent. They denounced the war AND the soldiers, since we have a volunteer military force. I disagree with that view, but atleast it makes sense. You guys, on the other hand, demonize Bush and the war, but (atleast claim) to hold the troops in the highest regard. Either you really do have contempt for the troops, or you believe they are just stupid pawns. Which is it? It has to be one or the other.
Wait just a second. You didn;t ask me how I felt about NG soldiers being deployed. The active duty army and NG are two different things. I don't support the way the NG has been utilized, by the way. When you sign on for the NG, you know that is very different from active duty.
Will you answer the question, please. If you think the war in Iraq is evil, then how do you feel about our volunteer military? When you sign up, you don't get to pick where you go. This is a legit question.
And that's what I was tring to discern. If the war is eveil, then where does that leave the soldiers of our volunteer force? Are they evil? Pawns? Or something else?
I already answered your question. There is a difference between NG, active duty service, Reserves.
Bottom line, the Brits were well within the Iraqi territory they patrol. They were seized in an act of war by Iran against the UK. There are indications Iran is violating terms of Geneva in the captivity of the 15 uniformed Royal Navy sailors.
We have our own issues with Iran for it's providing weapons to the terrorists and insurgents that defeat our armor and have killed over 200 Americans and caused 500 casualties from Iranian RPGs, EFPs, and IED infared triggering devices.
The blind Lefty mantra that "diplomacy always solves matters" ignores history, ignores the 444 day long captivity and fake executions and beatings of those US personnel on sovereign US embassy soil under the Wimp's Presidency.
If it does come down to war...it will be time for Lefties to choose sides. No more "50 years ago we were mean to Iran" excuse-making. A shooting war. Lots of people dying, possibly a Draft started - and Lefties will be on notice to show where their loyalties lie.
I noted upon reading this post that wherever any fault is found, it's always with Great Britain, FOX, Gibson, but interestingly never with Iran.
Once again Newshounds shows us which side they're on...the Islamic radicals.
The enemy of your enemy is your friend, apparently.
Alex when a country's govt has stated there intent to destroy us it doesn't give you much of a choice. Can't you realize there are times when war or extinction are the only two options.
Was it OK that the hostages had to give up 444 days of their life to the Islamic radicals?
Democrat mantra: No price is too great to pay to weaken the U.S.
I've noticed that we're still in Iraq.
Do you always cry like this when you encounter differing opinions?
The liberals' fear of people who are different is hilarious.
Maybe that's why liberals are so dedicated to defending Iran--they just LOVE an underdog.
Maybe you could set the example for us and answer this...
Why did Newshounds, in this post, place blame everywhere except with Iran, which caused this "crisis" in the first place?
Thanks in advance!
Maybe you'd like to take a crack at my question to philadelphia kevin.
Can't say I blame you. You would have just looked stupid trying.
Newshounds and their fellow travelers here never seem to have a harsh word for Islamists, particularly while they (the Islamists) are doing their bidding by acting out against Bush and/or Blair.
That question might be better asked of claudo, as it was his claim that only "congress gets to decide on whether we go to war"
As to the point I was making, you completely missed it. Try again.
Godzilla, He didn't. Many times, the United States has engaged in extended military engagements that, while not formally declared wars, were explicitly authorized by Congress, short of a formal declaration of war.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
I can point to many examples where Newshounds did exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Newshounds is simply defending Islamists with this post, and attacking the victim.
What the Lefties ignore in their haste to stick up for Iran's leaders is that the UN has tasked UK forces to search vessels to verify they comply with UN Security Council directives related to sanctions.
The various wannabe pals of the Mullahs here at Newshounds also neglect to say that UK forces have full support of the Iraqi government to prevent the Iranian weaponry that is killing Iraqi civilians and various military forces in Iraq - Iraqi, US, Brit - from being smuggled in.
I hope a full war is not needed, but if it is it will be pretty unrestrained and overwhelming to ensure the Islamic fanatics don't close the Gulf oil off for more than a few months to avert global depression. We may very well need a Draft if it goes on longer, and I doubt Lefties will mount much effective resistance to it. Not even when it resembles a real war with significant US casulaties vs. the light numbers (relative to real wars) we have taken in Iraq.
As a few realistic posters have noted, this present ME struggle in Iraq is not all Bush. The Democratic Congress could end it in weeks by voting to accept defeat and cut off funds. They don't dare.
If Islamic Iran starts a war, they better not count on Congress to join their American Lefty allies in supporting an Iranian victory. Not with former pacifist liberals screaming about gas at 8 bucks a gallon and mass layoffs in American jobs - until the Iranian threat is ended.
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